[Audio] My Chat with Janey Lee Grace from “Alcohol Free Life”

​Last November when I was in London, Janey Lee Grace interviewed me for her 'not-yet-released' new podcast. Well now it's released 🙂 and I'm episode #13.

​We talk about ​sober coaching, what it's like to have a voice in your head that thinks that drinking is a good idea, and some tips on things that can help. 

​This podcast will also be sent out ​to podcast subscribers ​ as episode 302.

You can listen to the complete audio here.​ Our interview starts at about the 5 minute mark ...

​Sober Podcast 302. My Chat with ​Janey Lee Grace 

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I want to put this online, to hold myself accountable. I want to document the noise in my head. I'm tired of thinking about drinking. date of last drink: june 30, 2012

  • I’m approaching sobriety with fresh eyes and ears after many restarts, so here’s my new takeaway from this audio: there actually are ‘normies’ (normal drinkers) out there who can stop after a drink or two. My ‘wolfie’ kept telling me that really, all drinkers are the same innately, the same as me, and some drinkers have this secret to mastery over moderation which I believed I could achieve one day. Just like all the people who can moderate.

    Lo and behold, the penny dropped, NO! Not everyone is addicted to drinking or has the ‘wolfie’ voice in their head. So, this audio has shifted something for me in that I feel able to let go of the idea that I can moderate ‘one day’.

    And then I realised that this long tussle with alcohol is still stopping me from being all I can be even though I’ve come a long way with it over the past 4 years.

    Thank you for sharing, Belle.

  • I heard something new today: background noise. And it reminded me: There is this life out there, isn’t it? The one where normal people sit in a normal café, talking and it’s normal. So I told my wolfie voice, that was quite successful in loop-running around and torturing: “You’re wrong. I’m NOT alone with this. Even when I’m ill and lonesome right this minute, when everybody else seems to be outside in the sunshine … I can bring more supports if you want! But be careful, these audios have an emotional volume button, they might just knock you over!”

    • Well I’m not out in the sunshine Lena- I’ll sit next to you with my sober pillow – shall I bring you one? Xx